[Buddha-l] Buddha's Meditation

[Timothy Smith]

I'm lost here Dan.  I think were talking about different things.


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On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Dan Lusthaus wrote:

>> I didn't, even for a cosmological minute, think he was saying it was ok for 
>> things to be exterminated.
> Timothy Smith
> 
> 
> Timothy, I never said he did. I indicated that it was unavoidable 
> consequence of that line of thinking, and can only be contravened by 
> bringing in a different line of thinking, which I presume Richard and most 
> folks would do in most cases -- though when I've asked the vegetarians among 
> us to raise their hands, there are lots of cutsey alibis for why chewing on 
> the flesh of exterminated beings is not a practice to be given up.
> 
>> Rather, it seemed clear enough to me that he was admonishing the assembly 
>> to act as they saw fit
>> concerning the redwoods, but to act with non-attachment, thus lessening 
>> their suffering ...
> 
> Who is the "their" in that last phrase? The redwood's suffering, or the 
> "assembly's"?
> 
> Kill with non-attachment. You've made my point.
> 
> In an earlier thread some while back, Richard said as much about 
> vegetarianism, up to the point of saying that eating meat with 
> non-attachment is preferable to being attached to vegetarianism... showing a 
> good deal of self-centered concern for one's own narcissistic attitudes for 
> which flesh-and-blood animals -- or redwoods -- are only conceptual props... 
> Sorry, Timothy, that's immoral and dishonest in my book, especially when 
> trussed up as a superior moral stance.
> 
> Dan
> 
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