[Buddha-l] Check out The Right's Stupidity Spreads

sjziobro at cs.com sjziobro at cs.com
Sun Feb 12 10:25:32 MST 2012


Jack,
 

 I rather appreciated Richard's remarks vis-a-vis his Quaker faith and the U.S. Government using his tax dollars for purposes to which he is fundamentally opposed.  In fact, I would even say that Richard is in the right here.  The government is seeking to force Catholic institutions, which are precisely Catholic and founded on Catholic principles, to operate on premises and mores contrary to the Catholic Faith.  This is a huge intrusion of the State upon the constitutionally guaranteed free exercise of religion.  As such this opens the door to State intrusion in all religious matters, and intruding whether or not they pertain to Catholics.  This is the point, and not whether the Catholic Church holds positions with which you agree.  How is the State here doing anything differently from what you protest about the Catholic Church?  The fact is that we are not living in 1954 and artificial birth control is readily available to whomever wants to procure it.

Stan Ziobro

 

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From: Jackhat1 <Jackhat1 at aol.com>
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Sent: Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:33 am
Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Check out The Right's Stupidity Spreads


In a message dated 2/11/2012 11:12:49 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
rhayes at unm.edu writes:
 
I find myself quite sympathetic to those who have protested against  
Obama's recent blunders in stomping on people's religious convictions. His  
incredible insensitivity in this matter of birth control seems about  equivalent 

to requiring mosques and synagogues to distribute pork, or  requiring 
Mdhyamikas to use valid arguments. What was he  THINKING?
===
Let's see. First, the Catholic Church won't fund the insurance  that covers 
birth control. Catholic Churches are exempt. It applies only  to Catholic 
institutions that offer services to non Catholics as well as  Catholics. 
Think a Catholic hospital set in a poor area of town. State laws at  least here 
in Illinois prevent another hospital from opening up nearby and  competing 
with them. It receives enormous amounts of federal cash both  directly and 
indirectly through not having to pay taxes. Plus birth control is  not forced 
on anyone; they can refuse. Add to all this the fact that surveys  have 
shown that 98% of Catholic women have used birth control sometime in  their 
lives. How is all this stomping on people's religious convictions?  It seems to 
me to offset a Catholic hierarchy's forcing their beliefs on  others.
 
jack

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