[Buddha-l] liturgical languages

jkirk jkirk at spro.net
Fri May 13 12:28:52 MDT 2005

> On Fri, 13 May 2005, jkirk wrote:
> > Yes, this strikes me as an important difference. There seems to be a
> > difference between glossing bodhi as "enlightened" and glossing it as
> > "awake." Awake suggests and ongoing process, whereas enlightened with
> > past perfect ending suggests a concluded state, thus subjecting the
> > to essence and therefore contradicting the anatta and anicca
> > ("Awakened" also is a past perfect, so I'd jettison it in favor of
> > using "awake" for bodhi and for a Buddha----one who is awake.) The
> > on practice would thus seem to me to favor "awake" as a process or
> > condition descriptive of bodhi, from which "things" or "life" become
> > from delusion than otherwise, but is also a state that is never finished
> > until parinirvana, as in the case of the Buddha.
> Joanna,
> In the case of the Buddha's parinivana, would that not also ultimately
> indicate an accomplished state, thereby subjecting the process of
> enlightenment to some essence and, as you note, contradict the anatta and
> anicca propositions?
> Regards,
> Stan Ziobro
Hi Stan,
After I wrote my comment I guessed this question would come along :) ------
Well, not if one considers parinirvana a transformation, ergo change
(anicca), not stasis.
So bodhi is not actually fnished but transformed.
That's also how I personally view it as well.

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