[Buddha-l] Monk/nun or lay person

[Jim Peavler]

On Mar 2, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Jackhat1 at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 3/2/2006 4:40:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> selwyn at ntlworld.com writes:
> >The idea of 'here and now'-nibbana is not found in the Theravada
> >tradition, it's a Mahayana understanding of Nirvana.  The
> >Mahasatipattana  Sutta mentions no 'here and now' Enlightenment,
>
> It mentions seven days, as I recall.
> All reaching nibbana is in the here and now. Because of past  
> accumulations, someone might observe one breath and be enlightened.
>

According to people who believe that all reaching nibbana is in the  
here and now, of course.

I would not be able to launch a strong argument against the idea.

Nor could I launch a strong argument against the idea that nibbana is  
almost impossible for ordinary folks to reach without undergoing  
innumerable lives.

What people believe is often couched in absolutes: "All", for  
example. What people can actually know and understand almost never so.
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