[Buddha-l] Jung and Dignaga and social mores

Erik Hoogcarspel jehms at xs4all.nl
Fri Jan 2 03:44:59 MST 2009


Dan Lusthaus schreef:
> To get a better handle on the times in which Jung lived, here's a short
> extract from an article on Eric Voegelin -- Austrian Christian philosopher
> known for, among other things, his writings on Hegel. (Those who have access
> to JSTOR can download the whole essay)
>
> Eric Voegelin on Nazi Political Extremism
> Author(s): Clifford F. Porter
> Source: Journal of the History of Ideas, Vol. 63, No. 1 (Jan., 2002), pp.
> 151-171
>
> >From pp. 157-58
> "Voegelin's first attempts to penetrate to the essence of National Socialism
> were two books published in 1933 analyzing race theories-Rasse und Staat and
> Die Rassenidee in der Geistesgeschichte. He showed that National Socialist
> racism denied the fundamental humanity of Jews and other races, and, based
> on his own studies with biology, that National Socialist race theory was not
> science. Voegelin labeled this abuse of science for ideological purposes
> rather than to understand reality as "scientism." The Nazi race idea had in
> fact little to do with biology and ethnography. Rather, Voegelin believed
> that racism was the symbolic expression of the ordering principle of German
> nationalism. The elaborate use of scientific language gave comfort to the
> ideologists that they were actually engaged in science seeking positive
> truth. Nonetheless, no matter how elaborate the use of language was, it
> still denoted little or nothing."
>
>
> Note the date. Maybe Jung was just reading the wrong stuff. Voegelin, by the
> way, was deeply interested in the question of mass enthusiasm elicited by
> Nazis, and totalitarian regimes in general. He continued to refine his
> theories over the years. A small sample (from p. 165)
>
> 'Voegelin observed that the Nazis were emotionally tribal because
> "[t]ribalism is the answer to immaturity because it permits man to remain
> immature with the sanction of his group."
>
> '"But there were consequences for immaturity: good Germans who got
> emotionally drunk on the harangues of the savior...and who shrank back in
> horror when the program ... was trans- lated into political action."
>
> Abandoning his earlier conjecture about the nature of "pre-Christian
> paganism," Voegelin refined his views, describing Nazi symbolism as a mix of
> immanent pagan tribalism within the symbols of Christianity.'
>
>
>   
I don't think that quoting some Austrian idiot helps us understand anything more about the Nazi movement. Nazism doesn't exist anymore, it has become a myth in the distorted minds of both racists and pro-Israel activists.
Furthermore I thank Dan for his excellent demonstration of the mechanisms of the Asura mind, and invite him to return to the human world. You're most welcome Dan!

Erik

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