[Buddha-l] Paper: When the Saints Go Marching In (Lachs)

G. McLoughlin caodemarte at yahoo.com
Sat Apr 16 07:56:28 MDT 2011

I would imagine that anyone who sets up an "I represent absolute reality and it 
is in opposition to your small self"  opposition like this would be seen as 
pretty suspicious. 

From: Stuart Lachs <slachs at att.net>
To: Buddhist discussion forum <buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com>
Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 1:10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Paper: When the Saints Go Marching In (Lachs)

Hi Luke,

You wrote,
"The teacher screamed at him, "I represent the Buddha,
>> you represent ego."
> I wondered if you could explain what the teacher meant or just more 
> generally what zen buddhism says about the ego - I don't actually think 
> it's a term I've encountered in what I've read."

I believe the teacher meant that he speaks with the mind of the Buddha, the 
selfless enlightened mind while the student " representing ego" speaks with 
a mind attached to itself, self protective, some times referred to as the 
small mind, a mind/being that sees itself in opposition to and separate from 
everything else.

If you have read old Chan/Zen texts or their translations, you will not see 
the term ego because it is a modern western term. However, it is commonly 
used around western Zen centers.

All the best,


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