[Buddha-l] Soccer mad monks too tired to take alms

[jkirk]

Hi Joanna.

Good reply! But don't you think the Buddha taught that merit is gained by 
giving in general - cannot cite any references off hand though.

JK----Yes, of course. But I was citing mae chi, not dana in general, OK? So 
why change the subject?

I agree that Mae Chi are not given the same respect that monks are given. 
They are ordained, though not fully ordained, not even ordained as a novice, 
but 'lower'. I beleive they take the 8 precepts and are technically the same 
as a layperson.

JK------Despite their taking the 8 precepts, just as laypeople do when they 
go on retreat in a monastery, they are NOT ordained as monastics and never 
were. Monastics take far more than 8 precepts, as I'm sure you know.

Also there is no evidence that the Bhikkhuni tradition ever reached 
Thailand. But there is a movement in Thailand to establish the Bhikkhuni 
tradition with 2 or 3 woman now being fully ordained Bhikkhuni including a 
former professor of Buddhism Dr Chatsumarn Kabilsingh (who had published 
many articles and books in English). Lets hope they succeed.

JK---Yes, Dr. Kabilsingh is one whom I was referring to in my previous 
post--I coldn't recall her name, thanks for supplying it. She got ordained 
either in China or Taiwan, I forget which and it really doesn't matter, so 
far as the Theravada Thai sangha is concerned. In their view, she is a 
renegade since the Thai sangha does not allow ordination of bhikkunis.
Joanna

Regards

Bankei

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On 22/06/06, jkirk <jkirk at spro.net> wrote:
Who says that you do?
JK