# [Buddha-l] Happy Halloween! Buddha-L is defunct!

Max Cooper maxwellcooper2 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 1 02:35:09 MDT 2013

Dear Prof. Hayes and management team,

I too have greatly enjoyed reading this list -- I have learned surprising
and interesting things about Buddhism as relates to philosophical,
spiritual, sociological, and other fields.

I would be very sorry to see it go. I am wondering if, if the management of
the list has become too cumbersome for the current administrators, if
perhaps others might be able to take up the duties of managing the list, so
that we might save this rare forum for informative discussion (a small
oasis amidst the generally mindless cacophony that makes up the bulk of my
email inbox!).

Best,

- M. Cooper

>
>
>
> On 2013-10-31 1:33 PM, Richard Hayes wrote:
> > Dear Denizens of Buddha-l,
> >
> > It is Halloween, time for our annual announcement that Buddha-L is going
> to shut down. This time we really mean it. Buddha-L really is about to
> close down. As one can tell from the name, the discussion group got started
> back in the days when an email forum could not have a name any longer than
> eight characters, the last two of which had to be '-l' for some reason.
> Twenty-two years have passed since then, and I think it's safe to say that
> buddha-l has hardly ever lived up to its lofty description.
> >
> > \begin{lofty description}
> > Buddha-l functions as an open forum for informed discussion of topics
> relating to the history, literature and languages, fine arts, philosophy,
> practices and institutions of all forms of Buddhism.
> >
> > The primary purpose of this list is to provide a forum for reflective
> discussion. It is open to all persons inside and outside the academic
> context who wish to engage in substantial discussion of topics relating to
> Buddhism and Buddhist studies.
> >
> > Buddha-l is not to be used for proselytizing for or against Buddhism in
> general, any particular form of Buddhism, or any other religion or
> philosophy. Lively debate is welcome, but we aim for a deep concern both
> for the matter being discussed and for those participating in the
> conversation.
> > \end{lofty description}
> >
> > If anyone wishes to get copies of any or all of the archived
> discussions, the archives from March 2008 to the present are available at
> http://mailman.swcp.com/mailman/private/buddha-l/ . Unfortunately (or
> perhaps fortunately), the archives of the discussions that took place when
> buddha-l was hosted at the University of Louisville and later at McGill
> University are lost forever. Only those yogis with extraordinary powers of
> clairvoyance will be able to read the discussions that took place between
> October 1991 and February 2008.
> >
> > It has been an interesting twenty-two years, but all things, good and
> bad, must come to an end. And so, as Victor B?rge almost used to say, "Not
> Auf Wiedersehen, but Say?nara."
> >
> > The Management Team of Buddha-L
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com
> > http://mailman.swcp.com/mailman/listinfo/buddha-l
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 17:50:47 -0600
> From: "Jo" <ugg-5 at spro.net>
> To: "'Buddhist discussion forum'" <buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Happy Halloween! Buddha-L is defunct!
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> Om mangalam.
>
> JK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: buddha-l-bounces at mailman.swcp.com [mailto:
> buddha-l-bounces at mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hayes
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:34 PM
> To: Buddhist discussion forum
> Subject: [Buddha-l] Happy Halloween! Buddha-L is defunct!
>
> Dear Denizens of Buddha-l,
>
> It is Halloween, time for our annual announcement that Buddha-L is going
> to shut down. This time we really mean it. Buddha-L really is about to
> close down. As one can tell from the name, the discussion group got started
> back in the days when an email forum could not have a name any longer than
> eight characters, the last two of which had to be '-l' for some reason.
> Twenty-two years have passed since then, and I think it's safe to say that
> buddha-l has hardly ever lived up to its lofty description.
>
> \begin{lofty description}
> Buddha-l functions as an open forum for informed discussion of topics
> relating to the history, literature and languages, fine arts, philosophy,
> practices and institutions of all forms of Buddhism.
>
> The primary purpose of this list is to provide a forum for reflective
> discussion. It is open to all persons inside and outside the academic
> context who wish to engage in substantial discussion of topics relating to
> Buddhism and Buddhist studies.
>
> Buddha-l is not to be used for proselytizing for or against Buddhism in
> general, any particular form of Buddhism, or any other religion or
> philosophy. Lively debate is welcome, but we aim for a deep concern both
> for the matter being discussed and for those participating in the
> conversation.
> \end{lofty description}
>
> If anyone wishes to get copies of any or all of the archived discussions,
> the archives from March 2008 to the present are available at
> http://mailman.swcp.com/mailman/private/buddha-l/ . Unfortunately (or
> perhaps fortunately), the archives of the discussions that took place when
> buddha-l was hosted at the University of Louisville and later at McGill
> University are lost forever. Only those yogis with extraordinary powers of
> clairvoyance will be able to read the discussions that took place between
> October 1991 and February 2008.
>
> It has been an interesting twenty-two years, but all things, good and bad,
> must come to an end. And so, as Victor B?rge almost used to say, "Not Auf
> Wiedersehen, but Say?nara."
>
> The Management Team of Buddha-L
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> buddha-l mailing list
> buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com
> http://mailman.swcp.com/mailman/listinfo/buddha-l
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 12:21:39 +0800
> From: Lidewij Niezink <lidewij at gmail.com>
> To: Buddhist discussion forum <buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Happy Halloween! Buddha-L is defunct!
> Message-ID:
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> Can we have a vote?
>
> I too will miss this list service!
> On 1 Nov 2013 07:51, "Jo" <ugg-5 at spro.net> wrote:
>
> > Om mangalam.
> >
> > JK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: buddha-l-bounces at mailman.swcp.com [mailto:
> > buddha-l-bounces at mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hayes
> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:34 PM
> > To: Buddhist discussion forum
> > Subject: [Buddha-l] Happy Halloween! Buddha-L is defunct!
> >
> > Dear Denizens of Buddha-l,
> >
> > It is Halloween, time for our annual announcement that Buddha-L is going
> > to shut down. This time we really mean it. Buddha-L really is about to
> > close down. As one can tell from the name, the discussion group got
> started
> > back in the days when an email forum could not have a name any longer
> than
> > eight characters, the last two of which had to be '-l' for some reason.
> > Twenty-two years have passed since then, and I think it's safe to say
> that
> > buddha-l has hardly ever lived up to its lofty description.
> >
> > \begin{lofty description}
> > Buddha-l functions as an open forum for informed discussion of topics
> > relating to the history, literature and languages, fine arts, philosophy,
> > practices and institutions of all forms of Buddhism.
> >
> > The primary purpose of this list is to provide a forum for reflective
> > discussion. It is open to all persons inside and outside the academic
> > context who wish to engage in substantial discussion of topics relating
> to
> > Buddhism and Buddhist studies.
> >
> > Buddha-l is not to be used for proselytizing for or against Buddhism in
> > general, any particular form of Buddhism, or any other religion or
> > philosophy. Lively debate is welcome, but we aim for a deep concern both
> > for the matter being discussed and for those participating in the
> > conversation.
> > \end{lofty description}
> >
> > If anyone wishes to get copies of any or all of the archived discussions,
> > the archives from March 2008 to the present are available at
> > http://mailman.swcp.com/mailman/private/buddha-l/ . Unfortunately (or
> > perhaps fortunately), the archives of the discussions that took place
> when
> > buddha-l was hosted at the University of Louisville and later at McGill
> > University are lost forever. Only those yogis with extraordinary powers
> of
> > clairvoyance will be able to read the discussions that took place between
> > October 1991 and February 2008.
> >
> > It has been an interesting twenty-two years, but all things, good and
> > must come to an end. And so, as Victor B?rge almost used to say, "Not Auf
> > Wiedersehen, but Say?nara."
> >
> > The Management Team of Buddha-L
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > buddha-l mailing list
> > buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com
> > http://mailman.swcp.com/mailman/listinfo/buddha-l
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > buddha-l mailing list
> > buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com
> > http://mailman.swcp.com/mailman/listinfo/buddha-l
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 20:58:32 -1000 (HST)
> From: donna Bair-Mundy <donnab at hawaii.edu>
> To: Buddhist discussion forum <buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Happy Halloween! Buddha-L is defunct!
> Message-ID: <alpine.GSO.2.00.1310312039240.27339 at uhx01.its.hawaii.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Aloha,
>    Buddha-l is often the only high point of my day.  I'm not kidding.
>    I realize that sometimes the dialogue disintegrates into vituperative
> swipes but even in the midst of those there are often little gems of
> information embedded in the sediment.
>    Many of us have lives in which we must focus our attention throughout
> much of the day on the rather dreary administrative trivia that is
> required of everyone who teaches at a university these days.  What
> percentage of my students achieved which levels of attainment regarding
> Student Learning Objective 3b, to be recorded in a spreadsheet, for
> example.
>    It is such a relief when one opens one's e-mail and spots a series of
> messages from Buddha-l.  Honestly, it perks me up with anticipation when I
> move the cursor down to click on those e-mails.
>    Please don't take that away.
>
>                         Have a safe and joyful day,
>
>                         donna Bair-Mundy, Ph.D.
>                         Instructor, LIS Program
>                         Information & Computer Sci. Dept.
>                         Hamilton Library, Room 003-B
>                         2550 McCarthy Mall
>                         University of Hawaii at Manoa
>                         Honolulu, HI 96822
>                         Voice: 808-956-9518 Fax: 808-956-5835
>                         <donnab at hawaii.edu>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:00:15 -1000 (HST)
> From: donna Bair-Mundy <donnab at hawaii.edu>
> To: Buddhist discussion forum <buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Happy Halloween! Buddha-L is defunct!
> Message-ID: <alpine.GSO.2.00.1310312058500.27339 at uhx01.its.hawaii.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Aloha,
>    Before this list goes away I was hoping that I could get some pointers
> to good translations and commentaries regarding the Surangama Sutra.  (I
> can't do diacriticals with my e-mail system.)
>
>
>                         Have a safe and joyful day,
>
>                         donna Bair-Mundy, Ph.D.
>                         Instructor, LIS Program
>                         Information & Computer Sci. Dept.
>                         Hamilton Library, Room 003-B
>                         2550 McCarthy Mall
>                         University of Hawaii at Manoa
>                         Honolulu, HI 96822
>                         Voice: 808-956-9518 Fax: 808-956-5835
>                         <donnab at hawaii.edu>
>
>
>
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